Change from Pro to VB

[Halfhidden]

Hi, I've employed a firm to create a theme that I can use with Vbulletin 3.8, Photo Post Pro 6.2.3 and VBadvanced 3.2.1. Anyway the thing is that I stipulated that the modules and boxes had to have rounded corners... My understanding is that they are having difficulties with Photo Post Pro and have asked if we could change to VBgallery.
Personally I don't mind but to be honest I don't know of the advantages and disadvantages of this move. Nor do I know if it is easy to change from Photo Post Pro to Photo Post vBGallery...if at all possible.
I'm told from the company that is creating the theme that vBGallery is a tighter integration to VBulletin and there might be advantages to changing... could you point me in the direction of a direct comparison or advise me on this issue please. I did try to find the information but was unsuccessful.
Regards,
Steff
PS
Merry Christmas

[Chuck S]

PhotoPost PHP Photo Sharing Photo Gallery: Pro vs. vBGallery

Thats a direct comparison between the products.

In photopost pro if they modify the ppopen an ppclose templates accordingly they should have no problem doing table wrappers in fact its like super easy.

[Halfhidden]

Thanks Chuck. I'm in no way the league of theme designing so I'll pass the information on. Would it be ok if they contacted you for a little more information on how this is done?
If they are also agreeable I'll donate the theme to Photo Post members free of charge.
I hope that it will be popular... nice and rounded corners seems to be all the craze and no one knows how to achieve it.
Regards,
Steff

[Chuck S]

The ppopen and ppclose templates are simply html table statements etc

They wrap every single main table in photopost so basically all your style guys need to do is do there html wrappers in that file. Open what they need in ppopen close it in ppclose and things are done

[Halfhidden]

Ok... last Christmas I asked this same question for different reason... Today I need to ask the same question again.
Can I export pictures, comments, ranks and those sort of things from Photo Post Pro to vBgallery?
Thanks

[Chuck S]

Photopost Pro to vBGallery

Thats the only import script that I see which should work with vb 3.6-3.7 maybe 3.8 series can not say but it will not work with vb4.

[Halfhidden]

So is it worth trying to export from PP pro7 to Vbgalley 3 (providing that I backed up)?

[Chuck S]

You can not export to vbgallery beta3 as stated as there is no importer for vbulletin4

[Halfhidden]

Shame... I've just discovered a shed load of features in vBgallery that aren't in PP Pro
All Vbulletin based features.

[Chuck S]

Really not sure what you mean by that because gallery to gallery comparison Pro has lots more gallery features than vbGallery.

The main vb difference between the two is vbGallery loads the admin and templates etc in vb admin whereas Pro has its own admin. Front end wise they both uaw the vb header footer style so not sure what vb features your talking.

[Halfhidden]

I agree but Vbgallery has

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that allows users to post to Facebook, Filmstrip on Vbulletin home, Random images on forum and so on. None of these are features in PP Pro (not without building plugins)
Vbgallery also integrates better into Vbulletin when it comes down to templates.
One huge advantage for me is when a new user group is created. In pp pro I have to edit hundreds of cats and subcats because the user control is made that way. I know that I can copy a cat but you'll understand why that wouldn't work if you saw the complex users rights per cat or subcat. In Vbgallery this is controlled by vbulletin and therefore incredibly straight forward.
I agree that PP pro is feature rich, but it lacks some of the features from Vbgallery.... I suspect this is because PP Pro is more versatile and cross forum and board compatible.
And these are just a few reasons why I would prefer to use Vbgallery rather than PP Pro.

[Chuck S]

PhotoPost Pro has all those plugins like images on forumhome etc as I released them//

vbGallery category usergroup permission is handled just like Photopost Pro. Both Galleries have separate usergroup and category permissions set under the actual gallery admin usergroup and category perms under each gallery admin.

You are right that since vbGallery is merely a made for vb only plugin not a full featured gallery that the template integration is indeed tighter.

But in the long run its personal choice.

[Halfhidden]

Yes, I'm not criticising... lord knows Photopost is the best on the market... Only wish I could have chosen VB over Pro in the early days.
What plans are there for Vbgallery... is it going to continue?
If So I may invest in a scripts to port to it from Pro.

PhotoPost Pro has all those plugins like images on forum home etc as I released them//

Again I'm not criticising just confused as to why these features aren't available to the pro version natively. One BIG feature missing in Pro is Social network interactiveness unlike Vbgallery that has it built in as a feature...forums have woken up to is interaction with other multi national huge concerns like Facebook. It's built into Vbgallery yet the best I could find for pro was a third party hack that gave little control over the final post and ultimately served to promote the third party..... That's how far reaching the differences are to me.
To be fair I would need to show you how the permissions are set up on our site to see how difficult... no not difficult... time consuming it is to set permissions for a new group who has different rights in different cats and sub cats. I shy away from this task as it can take half a day to complete.

I see two types of software. Photopost Pro (the software compatible with most of the serious forums scripts) and Vbgallery dedicated Vbulletin gallery script. Clearly the gap between each is getting wider and I guess if I'm to invest in the future I should take a long hard look at these two and the market and see what best compliments Vbulletin in features, administration, compatibility and integration.

[Chuck S]

vbGallery is continuing on as you are well aware it is in beta to support vb4.

[Luciano]

Originally Posted by Halfhidden

So is it worth trying to export from PP pro7 to Vbgalley 3 (providing that I backed up)?

As of beta 3, there is a very basic pp7 to vbgallery 3 importer included in vbgallery.

BUT.. it takes time... what it will do is export your bigimage to vbgallery, as well as the database entries.


But you must know it will not export your category structure..
You can only export images of a category to an existing vbgallery category..

this has an advantage: you can add images to a vbgallery category..
but if you have like 200 categories, you would have to recreate them manually in vbgallery.

You will then though have to regenerate intermediate, thumbnails and original images. (in this order)
We tested it on a very big gallery (over 500.000) images. It worked.
but it took 2 weeks regenerating ALL images.

There is one drawback.. it will for the moment not export user created categories.

Luc

[Halfhidden]

There is one drawback.. it will for the moment not export user created categories.

This is interesting! by user created categories do you mean private albums.

[Luciano]

Well the user albums (no idea what they are called in pp7)
When in vbgallery i upload in member galleries.. it will create a folder with username...
Those are imported... (if you select membercategory as vbgallery destination)
but inside those a user can create a named category...
those are not imported for the moment.. why?
because in vbgallery they showup in the category dropdown.. if they are viewable by all..

Now if you have like 10000 users, and only 5000 of them have some of those usercategories, then the category jump and the category selector at upload will have like 5000 entries plus the normal categories.. and thats a memory hog.. the upload page will not be able to show and even if, user would have to go through 5000 categories to figure out in which to upload.

So until there is no real elegant solution, it wont work..

L.

[Halfhidden]

Umm interesting reading. I suppose the only way to see if this works is to try it. We don't have complicated cat structures, just cats and subcats and the user albums are straight forward enough.
Perhaps I'll give this ago and post back.

[Halfhidden]

Just a quick question as I've never done this before. should I install an instance of vBgallery to my site and name the gallery directory to something like gallery 1. The reason I ask is because my PP Pro installation is in the directory called gallery.
At the moment my directory structure looks like this for pp Pro: public_html/gallery
Looks like this for the forum: public_html/forum
So I'm assuming I'll have to install a new instance of vBgallery to the following directory:
public_html/gallery1
Then after the transfer remove the pp pro directory and database entry's.

[Chuck S]

You can install vbgallery into any directory name you wish. If gallery is taken as in your example using something like photos would work.