Getting in my articles

[KenDude]

Chuck,

I upgraded to 4.2, the first thing I noticed was that all of my old articles were not displaying correctly, a bunch of HTML was showing up even though HTML was NOT turned on for my older articles. Ok no problem, went to the Admin panel and turned on HTML in the article body (products as you'd call it) and now those old articles show up fine. However, when I go to submit a new article it is inserting a <p> at the begging and </p> at the end. Any idea how to get rid of this showing up? Here is a quick sample to show you what I mean:

Message - My Articles

[Chuck S]

If your using the new WYSIWYG editor you cant remove those. They are added I think by that product.

[KenDude]

Ok one other question then, on my product upload form I have 2 custom fields (field #1 and field #2) defined for products in that category. In the past entering something into those fields was OPTIONAL, but now if I try to leave them blank I get a pop up warning and it won't let me submit until I have put something into those fields.

I looked but couldn't find anything about making those fields optional or required???

[Chuck S]

You can remove the checkform if clauses for those extra fields in the upload product templates

[KenDude]

Originally Posted by Chuck S

You can remove the checkform if clauses for those extra fields in the upload product templates

Do you know which templates specifically I need to open up in my editor and look for some checkform clauses in?

[Chuck S]

Yes uploadproduct templates

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[KenDude]

Chuck,
Thanks, but btw did you know the language string "blankfield" is missing from the English language file? Is there a way to add that field to the file? I thought that maybe instead I would just change the warning message that pops up to tell people that they either should enter something or enter N/A if not applicable. The error message that pops up doesn't say anything because the phrase for blankfield is missing.
Thanks,
Ken

[Chuck S]

No I did not thanks

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[KenDude]

Where do I run that from? Admincp? I tried running from admincp and I kept getting a syntax error. What am I doing wrong???

[Chuck S]

INSERT INTO rp_phrases VALUES ('', 'blankfield', 'The following field cannot be left blank or enter N/A if not applicable', 'The following field cannot be left blank or enter N/A if not applicable', '1');

You run the query from phpmyadmin above or the one I posted before you can add to the phrases.php file and run the phrases.php file again to reimport the strings

[KenDude]

Chuck,
I ran the query in phpmyadmin and it inserted just fine.

Then I went to my article and I tried to edit it and remove the text I had in the additional field #1 and save and I expected it to show me the pop-up but it didn't. It DID remove the text upon save, not sure if the warning only pops the first time you submit a new product/article.

The other thing I noticed is that MOVE/DELETE is NOT working from the dropdown menu, rather than call some page it is trying to call some javascript and whatever it is supposed to be doing it isn't doing anything on my site so I have been unable to delete this test article I've been playing with. Suggestions?

[Chuck S]

Do you use any other java on your site? Maybe a java conflict. Also you sure you are looking for the move/delete box as it displays where it always has on the bottom of the pic info?

[KenDude]

Ha it's working now, the javascript basically "revealed" that area at the bottom of the page, I didn't catch that, I suspect most people won't either... especially if the article puts the bottom of the page beyond their view in the window when they are up at the top clicking the menu item, any way to make it show up at the TOP of the page instead?? That would get noticed.

[Chuck S]

Ken

That java admin tool is only for you not users.

[KenDude]

Originally Posted by Chuck S

Ken

That java admin tool is only for you not users.

Ok understood, but I bet I'm not the only admin to miss this in the new java admin setup that it appears at the bottom, but if there isn't an easy way to shift it to the top I can live with it, just saying from a usability standpoint the top would have been a better choice IMHO.

Speaking of useability, is there any way to move the box for users to enter their bid in auctions up higher? I get complaints from members all the time that they don't see where to enter their bid since they are expecting it up top with all of the main info about an item for sale/auction and not down below the description and horizontal bars, etc. If there is an easy way to move it up please let me know, otherwise please put this down as a feature request for the next version to have the bid entry box up near the price of the item and top level info.

[Chuck S]

Okay now we are talking about classifieds not reviewpost.

You can try editing your showproduct template and move $admmenu and $bidq variables and or html associated with them accordingly to how you want it displayed.

[KenDude]

OOps sorry I was kind of intermingling them since they have a common code base and I own both products, sorry for any confusion, just trying to point out some usability items for consideration in future versions that's all. Thanks again for the help!

[Chuck S]

No problem its all good.

[KenDude]

Chuck,

Sorry to have to revisit this, but the new editor is causing all sorts of havoc.

Something is really messed up with this new editor and the way things are processed in background for the initial product review.

For example if I have the editor set to Basic or Wysiwyg, and have HTML in Product Fields turned ON, everything with my prior product entries (Articles as we call them and we have over 300 btw) shows up fine but with additional spacing (frustrating).

If I turn the editor to OFF and leave HTML ON, all of the articles show up with HTML tags in them EVEN THOUGH NONE EXIST IN THE DATABSE, I can edit the article and items show up as BB Code like [ B ] Bolded Item [ / B ] (extra spacing added just for this example to show what I mean) but when the article shows up they appear as < B > Bolded Item < / B >. Which is VERY frustrating.

So I thought, OK just turn the editor OFF and turn HTML OFF, well guess what - SAME RESULT a bunch of HTML tags, photos no longer show up, etc.
I would have thought that having both off would have meant the system would have worked the same way as it did prior to 4.2 but evidently something that is processing all the text and tags in the background has fundamentally changed in 4.2, is there some way to go back.

My suggestions, pleas actually

1) Fix 4.2 so it will work as it did before 4.2 if you have the WYSIWYG editor set to OFF and HTML OFF.

2) Do away with this WYSINWYG 3rd party editor and simply use the built-in editor from vbulletin instead which my members understand from the forum. I tried the new WYSIWYG 3rd party editor and my members hated it because when you went to edit prior articles in it, it was just a bunch of HTML gunk which members couldn't make heads or tails off.

Right now with the system set to BASIC and HTML ON, I can display old articles fine, but any member who creates a new article has their article show up with a bunch of HTML tags in it as opposed to those tags working and making something bold or showing a photo, etc. I have had articles that I've fixed up and saved with BB Code tags instead, only to have a member go in and edit one word and suddenly all the BB Code shows up as HTML non-working tags instead, even with HTML turned on, so somethign isn't working right.

I'm happy to work with you to try to get to the bottom of it because right now this is VERY painful to live with!

Thanks!

[Chuck S]

You can send me a url ftp admin login etc and all examples. I am not sure as to what you mean make things like they use to before the editor since the default code has not changed. There is only a switch if editor do this otherwise do the norm.