Thumbnails under images in v7 - Page 2

eastestuary · January 13th, 2010, 02:00 AM

I too consider this change in basic layout properties a nuisance. I will also be seeking a way to modify the properties to keep the thumbnails across the bottom but manage the width. The side thumbs are not a tenable option.

I have set my site to use 1 row instead of the default 3 from the installation (although my admin console uses the word column so it took me some time to find it).

I can't disagree with your stated aim to keep the product current and implement new features. However, I don't think we are aligned on the way in which the change is imposed. We are all experiencing a change in the fundamental behavior of our layouts simply by virtue of implementing the upgrade. I would expect to have the option to use fewer thumbnails (as the product did before) to achieve a layout similar to what we have had until now. A simple choice mechanism would do it in the admin console.

Please note that many of us have built fixed width sites simply to adhere to Photopost's template structure which in the past has not had options to flow the the number of thumbnails to automatically wrap and accommodate various widths...it simply stretches the distance between the thumbs.

Probably not a bug, but certainly is valuable customer feedback I would hope.

Chuck S · January 13th, 2010, 05:42 AM

The product never has had a mechanism to have fewer thumbnails in the preview. It had 5 or 7 so not really sure what you meant by your comment. The product has the same options it had before although the only real change is to show instead of 1 row you can have 3.

It is a nice suggestion to have a setting to define how many per row you wish to have in the previews. Feel free to post suggestions for future versions in the suggestions forum of the product.

Peter · January 16th, 2010, 03:23 PM

Is there a way to have less thumbs in 7.0.1 or the issue is not fixed yet ?

Please give us back the way 6.5 display the thumbs without breaking the width of the site !!

Thanks.

Chuck S · January 16th, 2010, 03:51 PM

No there is no option for you to select how many thumbs appear there.

Peter · February 16th, 2011, 12:51 PM

Hi, I reopen this thread to find a fix for this.

The thumbs under the images break the layout, is there a new setting or something that fixes this in 7.0.3 ?

I dont want a layout like that, I want it working as photopost had all the time until this version.

How can I have 5 thumbs all the time, including when the previous or next items is clicked ?

Thanks.

Chuck S · February 16th, 2011, 01:01 PM

There is no fix because there is no option to select how many thumbs so this is not a bug. The feature is designed to show 7 previews in 1 or 3 rows. You can set it to show top bottom left or right or turn it off all together in show photo options in admin. The program has many features you elect to use them or not. People choose all different types of layouts so you would pick what features work with your restricted width site.

Peter · February 16th, 2011, 01:11 PM

Having 7 new thumbs in the gallery that breaks the layout is definitely a bug. "Its breaking" the layout and this comes with version 7, not before.

So having something new that breaks layouts its something to fix for sure.

The other options are not ok for me, how can I have the same thumbs under the pictures, but 5, not more. The idea is to have a site without being braked by this.

Thanks.

Chuck S · February 16th, 2011, 03:02 PM

Peter it is not a bug in any manner. By your own way of looking at things I could say placing an image gallery in a confined 700 pixel table is a bug. See that way of thinking does not correlate.

There are features in the program and switches to turn things on or off or move things around. If you choose to limit the program to a confined spacing then you would turn features on or off to match the space parameters you are limiting the application to. If you choose medium image size say of 500 pixels and the next prev images to 1 row of images left or right not top or bottom you can easily confine it in a 700 pixel table.

Basically its all about knowing what your doing and how to set things in admin. If you post a url I can offer you suggestions.

Peter · February 16th, 2011, 03:18 PM

Thats exactly the problem, its not a 700 pixels table its a 1350 pixels one.

Maybe theres the confusion, thinking its 700 pixels when its not. So having 1350 for content, it pushes all the sidebar breaking the layout.

I dont want to turn off the thumbs under the images, I had it there since PP 5 and in 7 it goes 1350 pixels breaking everything, so I want to fix that.

Make sense ?

Chuck S · February 16th, 2011, 04:59 PM

Well if its a 1350 pixel table 7 100 pixel thumbnails fits fine so without you posting a url I cant comment.

Chuck S · February 16th, 2011, 06:20 PM

Peter if your site is the mac one I viewed it and see nothing wrong but you also are choosing to show a sidebar on your site as well so your width 20% less than it actually is.

Thus for instance if someone is viewing your site with there browser set to 1024 width then the usable space on showphoto would only be 819pixels because of the sidebar something to consider when configuring options. Therefore since your medium is already 600 pixels you definately do not want multiple rows of previews.

Peter · February 17th, 2011, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck S

Well if its a 1350 pixel table 7 100 pixel thumbnails fits fine so without you posting a url I cant comment.

Thats the problem, again, 7 images with no space between them, with no text in each side to navigate, everything with border 0, can be 700 pixels, but its like a 700 pano image all together, not thumbs.

See the attached image and see how "it breaks" the layout.

So, have a 1350 table since version 7 is a bug, you cant force people to have a site with 1350 pixels for content, plus a sidebar and everything braked in the layout, thats not good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck S

Peter if your site is the mac one I viewed it and see nothing wrong but you also are choosing to show a sidebar on your site as well so your width 20% less than it actually is.

Thus for instance if someone is viewing your site with there browser set to 1024 width then the usable space on showphoto would only be 819pixels because of the sidebar something to consider when configuring options. Therefore since your medium is already 600 pixels you definately do not want multiple rows of previews.

Yes, my site is the mac one and you see ok the gallery home, click an image and see how everything breaks because of this.

Yes I choose to have a sidebar, as I had all the time, but v7 comes in and breaks that.

Exactly, if the size of the content is 820 pixels, having a table of 1350 pixels, breaks everything.

Yo cant see the site at 1024 if you click an image to see it, you can only see the index of the gallery in that resolution.

I am not trying to fix an error of mine here, this is really breaking the sites, as all people stated here.

See the attachment and see the site "clicking an image", you will see the problem, bug or not, its a problem in v7, and those 7 thumbs in a 1350 pixels table must be fixed.

Having the option to choose the number of images will fix the problem.

Peter.

Chuck S · February 17th, 2011, 07:33 AM

Peter the options are as I state. The thumbnails are not suppose to have title and anything you speak of. Your image just shows me your trying to view the site at a restricted width and putting too much stuff on the page.

your resolution would be to do one of the following from what I see

1. set your next prev image bar to display left right NOT top or bottom

2. turn off the sidebar globally only show it on the gallery index. As I stated in my last post if you try and view your page in a say small width like 1000 pixels your sidebar is suppose to be 20 percent of the page so that leaves little room to render the showphoto template and beleive me showing 7 100 pixel thumbnails with spacing between them and the next and prev linked your not going to fit in an 600 pixel spot so you will scroll.

No matter what you do you need to set options the proper way to consider your viewing aspects. Thats HTML basics. You can not squeeze 900 pixels into 800 your gonna scroll.

Peter · February 17th, 2011, 08:00 AM

Thats exactly what I am trying to say.

Why introduce a 1350 pixels bottom thumbnails in v7 ?

If I will not be able to use it anymore because it breaks everything, I think its not really good break that HTML basics in this new 7 version.

The problem here is not that I have the option to put them in the right or just erase my sidebar, I know that, but I dont like it.

I want to have them as I had all over the years with previous versions. Thumbs under the images not breaking the theme, thats what I want to have again, just the same as all previous versions.

I am not adding to much stuff on the page, I just have the image itself and the thumbs under that, the problem is that the thumbs are 1375 pixels to be exact. How am I supposed to see that without an horizontal scroll ? Just in a 2400 pixels monitor using the complete screen, thats not logical.

Please tell me you dont think I am crazy about this or someone else please comment, I am not sure I explain myself correctly about this, but I think its not that difficult.

1375 pixels thumbs are wrong, not a bug, but wrong.
Telling me disable your sidebar is wrong.
Telling me put them in the right or left is wrong.

I have the option tu put them under, why that breaks everything ?

Lets imagine...
In version 8 having the right or left option will make the min height 2000 pixels, having a huge down scroll with a blank space, you will tell me then thats not a bug and its a feature. Now everything breaks down and its not a bug.

Ok, but its wrong to have that way the things, as you said, thats HTML basics, why break them ?

Make sense ?

Chuck S · February 17th, 2011, 08:21 AM

The resolutions I gave you are correct because remember this is a feature you can turn it on or off or left right top bottom. There is not other answer. It is kind of like the flash uploader people want it but it doesnt work for everyone so you can turn it off or on.

I am merely saying all features might not be right for all site widths depending on how people set there site up.

The next previous thumbnails are designed to show 7 thumbnails that is 700 pixels not 1350 unless of course your thumbnails are 185 pixels each. It is designed to show 1 or 3 rows and you can show it top bottom left or right.

The only thing that changed in the 7 series really was that Michael added the ability to do 3 rows not just 1.

I have viewed your site repeatedly and see no issues at all but then I am on a wide screen huge monitor. If I set my resolution width to 1280 I can see an issue on yourt site.

Your issue is your thumbnail sizes your thumbnails are 150 pixels and your showing 7 of them that's 1050 pixels plus spacing and wording which is around 1200 pixels probally and then on top of that you want to show a sidebar that is 20% of your page width. Thats 256pixels which leaves you with 1024 left for photopost to render the showphoto page and you need 1200 not to scroll. Your gonna scroll

Do you understand what I am saying now about html basics? Really Peter your causing your issue. If you want to view your site on a smaller resolution monitor thats fine but you need to think out issues like this. If you have too much data to show on a page in a screen width your going to scroll.

This is the same issue I have explained many times over to other like for example people who restrict there site say to 750 pixels and then have 700 pixel medium image thresholds and want a row of previews down the right. That would work when your medium is 500-575 pixels sure but not when its 700 pixels.

Does that make sense? Image sizes are absolute its the page that floats which is why you will always have a scroll if you do not want to change anything to work with that smaller monitor.

Peter · February 17th, 2011, 08:49 AM

Ok, my only solution is to change my thumbs to 100 pixels instead of 150 ?

How can I change to 100 pixels all the thumbs in the gallery ? (And better just the thumbs under the images, as forcing me to have 100 pixels thumbs in all the gallery is ridiculous.)

Thanks.

Chuck S · February 17th, 2011, 08:59 AM

Well that is a 3rd option sure.

1. turn off sidebar

2. set previews to show left or right

3. set thumbnail threshold to 100 in upload options and then under scan database in admin rebuild all thumbs.

Any of those should work it all comes down to your not going to show 1300 pixels of info in a 1200 window without a scroll bar.

Peter · February 17th, 2011, 09:27 AM

Ok, now the thumbs under the images make sense, but all the thumbs in the index of the gallery are a bad joke with that super small size. The same in categories.

How can I have just the thumbs under the images at 100 pixels and all the others 150 or 200 ?

Chuck S · February 17th, 2011, 09:29 AM

If you do not like suggestion 3 then try 2 or 1 that I listed. I personally think setting the previews left or right would be best but thats me

Peter · February 17th, 2011, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck S

If you do not like suggestion 3 then try 2 or 1 that I listed. I personally think setting the previews left or right would be best but thats me

And for my question ?

How can I have just the thumbs under the images at 100 pixels and all the others 150 or 200 ?

Thanks.