Additional data field in Member Galleries?

OttoBomb · March 30th, 2008, 05:14 PM

I've been working hard on getting my photopost integrated into my vBulletin system, and have come across a problem.

Since we are a history based forum, we have added an addition field to all image descriptions called "Date of Capture/Creation". The additional field is for research purposes so we know when images were taken (exif information doesn't exist for images taken during the second world war).

The extra DoC/C field seems to work fine for most galleries, but there does not seem to be way to get it to work in the Member Galleries. I know I have the field set for Member Galleries in the admin control panel, but any photos in there just don't have that extra field.

How can I get this field into the Member Galleries as well?

OttoBomb · March 31st, 2008, 07:25 PM

No response? OK more info then.

The first attached image is a view of a photo in the gallery with the extra DoC/C field.

The second attachment is the member's gallery that has the DoC/C set in the admin area the exact same way as the gallery in the first image, but for some reason does not appear when the photos are called.

I know that photopost is installed correctly because I paid the photopost guys to install it for me.

Why does the extra field not appear? How do I get the extra field into every single image, even the ones in the Members Gallery?

Chuck S · March 31st, 2008, 08:15 PM

1. If you define an extra field the user will see this field when uploading a photo to that category or when editing their photo they can see that field.

2. If you wish us to comment please post a url to your site. The most common mistake one makes is if your defining this field for the members gallery remember the members gallery can show photos that do not exist in the members gallery so not all photos will have the extra field.

OttoBomb · March 31st, 2008, 08:33 PM

Thanks the the quick reply Chuck, I appreciate it.

1) If a user is simply uploading a photo to the site, the extra field appears, but if they create an album, and try to upload to that album then the extra field is unavailable. I have created test albums as both the admin and also with a generic test profile and the extra field is not offered for either. I need all photos in every gallery to have this extra field so every category has this addition, but it seems new albums don't want to.

2) The url to my photopost gallery is here: http://www.ww2f.com/photopost but I don't think unregistered members can view photos. (I'll edit this temporarily if you need.) In any case I have this extra field set for every single gallery/category on the site, but it doesn't seem to be an option to do this for new user created Albums.

Chuck S · March 31st, 2008, 08:39 PM

Simply put yes user albums do not have extra fields. So I guess this is your issue and the confusion here. extra fields are only for categories not personal albums.

This is why I asked for the url to see examples of your problem but you answered your issue by explaining its album photos with this issue.

OttoBomb · March 31st, 2008, 10:04 PM

Thanks again Chuck.

Just to be clear here. You are saying there is just absolutely no way to have this extra field in a user created album? If this is the case I'm quite disappointed, as this was to be a crucial part of our research system.

I sure hope there is some way to edit the setup and have the field and I'm not simply SOL.

Chuck S · March 31st, 2008, 10:40 PM

You can not define extra fields for user albums sorry that is not part of the features. Our product features state there are extra fields for categories. Personal albums are totally different

OttoBomb · April 1st, 2008, 02:14 AM

So it's SOL then.

This should absolutely be a feature that the admin can set for member created albums. I know you said that this wasn't specifically stated in the product features, but I specifically read through the features looking for this feature, and it looked like it was there for all uploaded photos. Until someone actually begins to use the product, words like "category" and "album" etc are assumed to be similar. Albums created by admins or members shouldn't be "totally different".

As a history based forum, we needed to use the product for research, and dates are obviously very important to us. Unfortunately, this effectively defeats the purpose of us having the photopost gallery in the first place.

Is there any way to get someone to hardcode this into the default user album, maybe we can pay a coder or something? Like I said, without this feature photopost is of very little value to our members.

Chuck S · April 1st, 2008, 08:30 AM

Your free to mod in the mod corner and see if someone can assist but yes personal albums are not categories and do not use extra fields so this would be an extensive overhaul.

OttoBomb · April 1st, 2008, 07:05 PM

Incidentally Chuck I again read through your product details page for this product. Extra fields was something that was important to me, so it is something I specifically looked for in your product. The features page states:

"# Custom defined fields (6 custom fields to collect and display
different information from the photo uploader besides description, title, etc, such as camera type, car engine size, etc - totally up to the admin)"

It makes no mention that definable fields are not allowed in member created albums, if fact the way it reads is that any photo uploaded will have these fields. No special comment is made about member created galleries.

Apparently these extra fields are not "totally up to the admin"

So my next question is, when can I expect a photopost release that has this feature?

Chuck S · April 1st, 2008, 07:12 PM

Category extra fields are already present and there is no personal album extra fields. No where do we say there are extra fields for albums. In fact under the features the ability for users to create personal albums is listed as another feature listed on that page. Categories and user personal albums are two totally separate features here.

OttoBomb · April 1st, 2008, 08:08 PM

By now it's pretty clear that categories and albums are "totally different"

The issue here is that the features state; "collect and display
different information from the photo uploader". There is no mention of where the uplaoder is sending the pics. How would someone reading these features be expected to know that these fields are unavailable based on where they upload?

I can honestly say I never saw where are extra fields for albums, but at the same time I can honestly say there is nowhere you don't say there are extra fields for albums. If someone reads the feature I quoted, they would think that all uploads have extra fields, no matter where they go.

Chuck, I'm honestly not trying to be difficult here. I really like the product and I truly made an effort to familiarize myself with the product prior to purchase. It's a little disheartening to know that a seemingly simple feature I was looking forward to implementing is unavailable.

Chuck S · April 1st, 2008, 08:20 PM

Well sorry to say that not every piece of software is going to operate exactly how you wish it to. Thats the nature of the beast in software it might have 99% of everything you want.

There is nothing in the features about the extra fields to be honest. You can search the feature page not one meantion of it to my knowledge.

You would have to go back to January 2005 announcement to see where we add unlimited extra fields

http://www.photopost.com/forum/showt...d+extra+fields

And even then without truly trying out a feature or using our admin demo all one can do is make an assumption it works the way they want it to work which is what you did here. Nowhere do we state there are additional fields for personal albums and you asked and I have informed you of the proper operation of the application.