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Old March 26th, 2005, 02:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Medium picture only

I have set the admin options to resize large photos down to 600 pixels. But that's all I want. It now saves two versions of the 600 pixel picture. Medium and large although both are 600? Is there a way to only end up with one?
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Old March 26th, 2005, 09:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You need to set medium threshold to 0 and resize is set to 600 both height and width. Then only one image and a thumb are created
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Old March 26th, 2005, 01:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I never saw anything that stated medium threshold ? Do you mean these settings?

Thumbnail image max width and height in pixels 100

Max allowable image width in pixels 600

Max allowable image height in pixels 600

Trigger medium graphic height and width 600
An uploaded larger than this will create a medium image of this size.

The one in red I should set to 0 ?
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Old March 26th, 2005, 01:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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YES thats the one
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Old March 28th, 2005, 01:11 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Thank you! That worked wonderfully!
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Old March 29th, 2005, 05:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I think you also need to turn on "Save and display medium and large images?" to get this to work. Otherwise it just shows the thumbnail in showphoto.

This should be sticky or documented right in setup. This is not intuitive. In fact the bit above is counterintuitive.

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Old March 29th, 2005, 01:55 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I think you also need to turn on "Save and display medium and large images?" to get this to work. Otherwise it just shows the thumbnail in showphoto.

This should be sticky or documented right in setup. This is not intuitive. In fact the bit above is counterintuitive.

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Why would I do that? Read above and you'll see I do not want large images saved.

But your idea was "counterintuitive"
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Old March 29th, 2005, 02:07 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Large images are the ones saved. They are saved at the dimensions you specify

You both are confusing me

Just set medium size to 0 set the max image height width and your thumbnail size and your good to go.

There isnt anything counter intuitive to it at all
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Old March 29th, 2005, 04:15 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Mark, If you want only a single image, you DO want large images. You DON'T want medium images. It is confusing and not at all intuitive, as you've just demonstrated by your misunderstanding, which I think is completely reasonable.

Hi Chuck. I am sorry but there is a counter intuitive aspect:

Consider this setting:

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Save and display medium and large images? Y/N
The description is meaningless and simply doesn't make any sense.

What does that mean? Why are both Large and Medium grouped together? If I say no, what does it mean, no medium images, no large images? What?

It is completely confusing and should be reworded. I think you could be more receptive to understanding that there are places where you could make improvements in the documentation.

This isn't freeware and I don't appreciate being TOLD what my opinion should be.

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Old March 29th, 2005, 04:26 PM   #10 (permalink)
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You need to calm down as I have said nothing but your statement is confusing.

Let's consider your opinion as you state above. What is counter intuitive about a setting that is clearly defined and worded

Save and display medium and large images? Y/N

that to me means you only are going to save thumbs. How better can the setting be worded and it has nothing to do with this thread.

Point here is a customer of Photopost asked a question and I answered it with the correct answer as he does not want medium images like the thread says. I supplied the correct answer.
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Old March 29th, 2005, 05:11 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Hi Chuck,

Thanks for your response.

I am also a customer of photopost/classifieds/reviewpost and had exactly the same problem as the poster. Since two of us were confused by the instructions, or lack of instructions, I pointed out a possibility to reduce confusion in the future by improving the documentation.

As pointed out above, neither I nor the other customer wants to "save and display medium AND large images." We want a single size. The description "Save and display medium and large images? Y/N" is unclear because it isn't obvious what setting it to no will do. Will it save only medium images? Will it save only large images? Will it display only thumbs? The only thing that is clear is that setting it to YES will give you both.

It would be significantly clearer to describe that feature as
"Display thumbnails only?" if that's what it actually does.

When we talk about Medium and Large displays, there are four possibilities. The descriptions need to be clear enough to identify what setting it to yes or to no will do. It is not obvious. If someone asked you, "Chuck, do you speak Latin and Greek?" and you said "No!" it wouldn't be clear whether you spoke Latin but not Greek; Greek but not Latin; or neither language. All we'd know is that you didn't speak both.

I think a, general, helpful thing to do would be to include in the installation a help tip link next to each of the settings, similar to those you'll find in the Vbulletin admin options. There is a question mark that links to a popup window that describes exactly what that particular feature will do.

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Old April 4th, 2005, 04:38 PM   #12 (permalink)
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All I will add is that after reading these messages, I more confused than when I started. I especially have no clue what the yes/no setting actually does if I select "No". I have to agree with previous posters that it is not very intuitive.

I was previously using VBGallery. Very simple setting there to resize images over a certain size.

I just tried uploading some large images. I would like them to resize to a max of say 640kb. I do not know if it is because I exceed the file size limit but it goes through the upload process, looks like it completed, and then there is no image present of any size?
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Old July 9th, 2005, 01:28 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Sorry to resurrect this thread, but I have to agree that these settings are confusing in the extreme. IMHO the setup is flawed... as I understand it the original of the uploaded file is not kept and this is the root of the confusion. The large image is not necessarily the original (but it can be, depending what max image size is set to).

Option should be available to keep original (independent of whatever max image size says)
Option should be available to allow or disallow viewing of originals
Option should be available to create or not create mediums.
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Old July 9th, 2005, 08:13 AM   #14 (permalink)
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How is this confusing? I think people are thinking about this way too much.

Medium size is quites straight forward. Set your medium threshold much like you set thumbnail and walk away.

The only setting that requires any thought is the original. If you want to save originals then you dont restrict the size.

I beleive we can look at further adding an option to keep originals though most people will not use this as its a diskspace hog in the extreme.
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We'll have to agree to disagree. I found this thread because I was searching the forums trying to figure out what "Save and display medium and large images? Y/N" means.

And I can't see any mechanism for restricting viewing of the original (or large) while allowing viewing of the medium... or am I going senile?

As for keeping originals, yes it would be heavy on disk space, but if you want to automate the sale of digital images through photopost (which I think many would like to do) then you want the original to be on the server for downloading.

To elaborate, what I would like to do (and I think this would be a common scenario) is upload full res photos to photopost, have it resize to a reasonable medium (say 600), and keep the orginal on the server. Then allow users to view the medium but NOT the full res. If they want the full res they pay the dollars.

Watermarking is not much use for this as a reasonable size watermark on a 600 becomes virtually useless on a full res. You can create various watermarks and put some simple if statements in watermark.php I 'spose.

I can hack all this in myself reasonably easily, and use paypal's IPN to allow a user access to the full res after paying, but photopost would be better setup this way anyway IMHO.

Sorry for the digression and thread hijack.
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Old July 9th, 2005, 09:03 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Everybody is entitled to there opinion thats what is so great I think things can always be improved as they usually are from version to version.
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