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Old July 14th, 2005, 10:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question VB3.5 integration Q

Hi guys.
I'm strongly considering upgrading my forum to VB3.5 Beta4. I wouldnt expect you chappies to change your software to suit a Beta release however a quick enquery (which will probably persuade me to wait)

Should I go to 3.5 now how will it affect the integration of PhotoClassifieds V2.41?

The reaon I'm keen is I have another piece of software I wish to hang off the board but I'm hesitant to put more work in knowing that it will all need to be rehashed in the near future. Its also very clear that VB integratation is a real pain in the a#$e for you guys so I need to roll it out in a sensible timeframe rather than jumping the gun.

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Old July 15th, 2005, 08:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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VB3 integration is actually pretty straight forward not a pain for us. any issues are usually user errors where they specify wrong paths etc

At this time we are not compatible with 3.5 and I would you suggest till we are able to support this.

There is in a thread here a modded header include to use but the enhanced and WYSIWYG features are not supported yet only the header/stylesheet integration
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Old July 16th, 2005, 03:04 AM   #3 (permalink)
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No problems.

The more I read the more I feel the best path is to wait for 3.5Gold. I'm just itching to hang a few new applications off my board
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Old July 29th, 2005, 07:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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No kidding. As soon as 3.5Gold is ready, I hope PP and PPC follow close on the heels.

Now, if only, I could get vB, PP, PPC and MAMBO all on one install, I think I'd just die and go to heaven.
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Old July 29th, 2005, 07:54 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I honestly think you'll never see that unless someone at Mambo or VB gets bold.

Since Mambo and Vbulletin both have there own databases either application would need to conceed and allow use of the others cookies and users and that is most likely why you have never seen this.
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Old August 1st, 2005, 09:09 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Now, if only, I could get vB, PP, PPC and MAMBO all on one install, I think I'd just die and go to heaven.
At the moment my site is running has VBulletin 3.0x with PhotoPost, ReviewPost, PhotoPost Classifieds and vbPortal.

Many of my users are not big 'forum users' and get confused by all the menu option in vBulletin - so my site is 'vBulletin centric' as vBulletin is really the core. I'm looking at Mambo - which seems to be quite a good bit of software for running a site and would really make my site Mambo centric with vBulletin becoming a 'forum section' on my site

I read in another posting somewhere that PhotoPost & ReviewPost will intergrate with Mambo at the 'user level' use but you can't fully intergrate because of Mambo's CSS. So is this the case or not?
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Yes that is correct. Mambo authentication is user level only

I wrote the integration and I can tell you the only drawback to Mambo seems to be too many hands in the cookie jar. Every stylesheet/template set has there own class calls which make it near impossible to map stylesheet colors.

I was able to map things to one stylesheet quite sucessfully when doing my tests but thats not good enough to support stylesheet integration or claim it
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Old August 2nd, 2005, 04:57 AM   #8 (permalink)
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VB3 integration is actually pretty straight forward not a pain for us. any issues are usually user errors where they specify wrong paths etc
yeah right!
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Well Integrations are pretty straight forward if you use the right paths and info and a product we claim to integrate with.

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I wrote the integration and I can tell you the only drawback to Mambo seems to be too many hands in the cookie jar. Every stylesheet/template set has there own class calls which make it near impossible to map stylesheet colors.
Mambo has won the "Best Open Source Solution" prize. The Mambo content management system defied the bookmakers by defeating Firefox, IBM and LTSP, when being judged for the best of the best at San Francisco LinuxWorld Conference and Expo.

With the number of Mambo CMS sites on the increase what's the likelihood that Photopost will offer better Mambo intergration in the next couple of months?
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Most likely NONE at this point to be honest.

Simply put Mambo has still not addressed the issue's that I put forth that you are quoted me on above which makes it impossible to ever pull the stylesheet.

My default Mambo integratation had stylesheet integration originally built in. In fact the query is still in the mambo file. Its just a matter of adding stuff in two other files and mapping out the stylesheet calls to put it back in.

However in my testing as I have previously noted it is quite literally impossible to every support stylesheet integration when a product as this has no standard which they go by.
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Old August 16th, 2005, 07:49 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Omegatron - thanks for your comments. Now I'm a little more informed I'll prod Mambo a bit by making a posting on Mambo forums encouraging them to sort out their product so that other products will better intergrate with Mambo. At the end of the day if they can get this sorted there will be more people more likely to use Mambo.
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Yep they just need to make sure they put forth a standard of class's mapped out that all developers whom develop templates and stylesheets have to follow otherwise it continues to look like a program that is coded by 20 different people that goes in every which direction.

Any other program whether its vbulletin ubbthreads phpbb smf invisionboard or photopost programs as an example use a specific set of stylesheet variables and every template set follows these class rules. They just need to follow suit.
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