vbulletin4.0

CBBF · June 3rd, 2009, 04:58 PM

I'm considering buying photopost. Will it be upgraded to work with vb4.0 since it'll be out soon?

If so, how soon after do you plan on getting the upgrade done?

Chuck S · June 3rd, 2009, 05:02 PM

To my knowledge vbulletin 4.0 is a ways off and only if they release a public beta would we be able to integrate before they go gold. If they stick to no public beta then it will mean that once they go gold we would then have to work on an integration so we will support it but we can not say when until vbulletin releases more info.

CBBF · June 3rd, 2009, 06:14 PM

I'm a little confused on how it works.

I am looking to have about 5 sections of my forum use photopost. The rest would just be a regular vbulletin forum. The pics from those 5 forums should show up on the forumhome as most recent and randoms. Maybe even most popular. Will the product do that? Anywhere I can test it? I went to the demo and it seems everything is just posting pictures and no sections for discussion only.

Chuck S · June 3rd, 2009, 08:21 PM

The product can show recent or random images on the forumhome there is a plugin for that.

However the forum and gallery are two separate products. I think you will find this with all products.

You can use this site as an example you see the forums and you see the photo block now click a photo or click the gallery link in the navbar you will go to the gallery it is a separate part of the site.

CBBF · June 3rd, 2009, 10:32 PM

Ok, I'm getting the jist of it. By looking at the url, you have the forum installed under /forum/ and photopost installed under /photopost/.

Now my million dollar question. When I look at photopost stanalone, It kind of looks like vbulletin. That's good as I have vb. But what I want to know is can I integrate it together. In other words, the specific 5 forums to be photopost and the rest to be vb, but on the same page (which is forumhome).

hornstar6969 · June 4th, 2009, 03:44 AM

Vbulletin have started to send out private alpha tester invites. vbseo was accepted. If you have not had your invite yet, then I suggest you contact vbulletin and put in some word so you can become private alpha/beta testers as vbulletin plan to have a wide range of 3rd party developers to be apart of the alpha/beta test. If you are seriously keen on impressing your customers then I am sure you will put forward to vbulletin a request to be apart of it.

Chuck S · June 4th, 2009, 09:57 AM

I can try that but vbulletin has never been too responsive to us in the past.

0ptima · June 25th, 2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck S

I can try that but vbulletin has never been too responsive to us in the past.

So did they grant you access to the alpha testing?

Chuck S · June 25th, 2009, 08:21 PM

There alpha testing was full from what I saw. I did sent a private message a few weeks ago to the guy ray morgan like the thread on there forums suggests here but no response so who knows.

vBulletin 4.0 Alpha and Beta testing - vBulletin Community Forum

I am not expecting a gold release of 4.0 anytime soon. They dont expect the first release alpha till maybe first week of august at the soonest. Then beta would come after that. Your most likely looking at the soonest maybe Christmas or 1st quarter next year so hopefully vbulletin will respond to us in some manner.

cellarius · June 26th, 2009, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck S

I am not expecting a gold release of 4.0 anytime soon.

It was just announced they are targeting August for gold release atm.

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They dont expect the first release alpha till maybe first week of august at the soonest.

Where does your information come from? Ray just stated otherwise, and he should know.

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Then beta would come after that. Your most likely looking at the soonest maybe Christmas or 1st quarter next year

What is the gain from starting or fueling such rumor

You should take into account that there won't be that much time for adapting Photopost.

Chuck S · June 26th, 2009, 06:33 AM

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By way of dev update, there are two major tasks remaining before we release the vB Forums for alpha testing:

vB4 Development Update - vBulletin Community Forum

Thats not how I read that post. They have NOT even released an alpha from what I am seeing. At any rate I doubt they can release a gold software in less than 45 days with proper testing. Remember vbulletin normally takes a year or more to produce a gold package. The whole email is prefaced with the statement I quoted above so he is saying the first alpha will be released before Q2. Thats the true statement. All those points are below the pre alpha release statements

At any rate back to the topic at hand. If they do not respond to our request for beta participation and there is no public beta then an integration can not happen till we get the final code to look at. There is no timeline of how long that could be till they finish and no time line on when we would get done anything we need to get done. There may be no timeframe to get things working or there could be alot of time involved.

CavySpirit · October 14th, 2009, 08:35 PM

Hi Chuck,

Given the activities on vB4 at the moment, can we get an update on what to expect from PhotoPost?

I'll definitely be moving my main site to the new Suite, because I need to. I've been needing an integrated CMS solution with the forum for years now and am very anxious to get on with it.

But the PhotoPost Gallery is also mission critical to my site. I have over 11,000 photos and over 46,000 comments.

But part of what I would really like is for the photopost UI to be more integrated with the vB template. While I've tried to get them as close as possible, it hasn't been as good as I would have liked. And now, vB4 has an entirely new, proprietary templating system.

So, while I'm anxious to move to the new platform as soon as vB4 CMS is out--which COULD be next month (I'm assuming certainly within the next 3 months)--since you haven't been involved in the Alpha and from the sounds of the posts about this, you haven't been able to make any progress with them, what are your expectations? Given a few different assumptions about access, what are your worst case, likely case, best case scenarios for us customers of PP regarding timing of vB4 and compatibility?

Thanks.

Chuck S · October 14th, 2009, 08:37 PM

Photopost will not be compatible with vbulletin 4.0 till we can even look at it. They are in the early alpha stages based on there notes on there site. We are on the beta list of developers to obtain copies so we will not know anything till then. We should support vb 4.0 when it goes gold which should not be for quite some time.

I think what they are doing now is preselling licenses. I dont see how they can jump from an early alpha to a gold release by months end.

Powerboat · October 15th, 2009, 03:00 AM

Hi there ,

Any update on compatibility????????????

Vbulletin have put a gun to our heads to pay big money and upgrade to VB4 or else

.

If there is no compatibility between Photopost and VB 4 then we are all going to have to decide which product to dump and replace

When we ask at VB, they say it is none of their business and to ask Photopost.

A similar situation arises for users of VBSEO.

Any feedback from Photopost? I need to know as I am about to add a classifieds feature to another of my VB Forums.

Kind regards,

Stuart

Chuck S · October 15th, 2009, 07:45 AM

Read my last post please right above yours. I dont know why your posting that Stuart when I answered it already.

Powerboat · October 15th, 2009, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck S

Read my last post please right above yours. I dont know why your posting that Stuart when I answered it already.

Hi Chuck,

My post should actually have been post no 12 in this thread!!

I had prepared my post last night at which stage the last post in this thread had been made in June.

Our broad band crashed last night preventing me sending it. I logged in and sent it quickly this morning without looking at the forums assuming that as the last post had been made in June.......

How was I to know that after a 5 month gap in this thread, 3 of us would all decide to reopen it within hours !

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I was about to purchase 5 new VBulletin licences today and 2 new Photopost licences for 2 of my 5 new websites.

Looks like I'll have to postpone all purchases now for a few months because of the uncertainty

Sorry again for the mix up. The post was made in good faith.

Kind regards,

Stuart

Chuck S · October 15th, 2009, 09:22 AM

yeah to my knowledge from looking at vbulletin.com is they are on alpha

vB4 and vB4 Suite Update - vBulletin Community Forum

They are doing a pre sales thing to drum up interest. I know alot of people are upset about there pricing structure.

We will as always support new versions of forums released that we integrate with but as posted we are on the beta list of developers to obtain software to work with so once it rolls into beta. I would not expect a final release of vbulletin 4.0 until around christmas or so. Since they are still in the alpha stages and its mid October they need to go into beta release it to developers and testers with a final coming out hopefully late this year or early next year. That of course is subject to change at any time but we should support the final 4.0 when it is available.

If anyone purchases licenses for 4.0 because of the savings it does not necessarily mean your going to get vb 4.0 right now. I think pre sales means exactly that. Much like the same if you purchase a movie pre sales before it is released. you need to wait till its released.

vbfan · October 16th, 2009, 08:39 PM

I don't have Photopost, but I am considering getting it once vB 4.0. I looked through the demo of Photopost and it looks fabulous! Exactly what I want! I just wanted to post something here just to further encourage you guys to work on a a new version of Photopost once you guys get access to work on vB 4.0!

snoopy5 · October 19th, 2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck S

....I know alot of people are upset about there pricing structure.
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Count me in...

I feel screwed...

Just read in the IPB pre-sales forums now all the questions about vb->IPB converters

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Originally Posted by Powerboat

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Vbulletin have put a gun to our heads to pay big money and upgrade to VB4 or else

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Stuart

What kind of business practice is that? and even worde, we shall decide on something we can even not see beforehand. The Photoshop images are useless for this.

They want us to give them money before knowing what kind of product vb4 will be (features, speed, stability etc.) and when vb4 will be available for sure (2010, 2011?)

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Originally Posted by CavySpirit

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So, while I'm anxious to move to the new platform as soon as vB4 CMS is out--which COULD be next month (I'm assuming certainly within the next 3 months)--s...

Thanks.

Dream on...

Do you know what alpha means? Do you know how many betas you have to run through, if the code is all new written, before it can become gold? This is not a switch from vb 3.81 to 3.82 or so. Do not expect anything really stable and secure before summer 2010. And the way they push now for money looks like they do not have enough money to hire more programmers for it. It just costs them more then expected.

I really check for alternatives to vb now...

1996 328ti · October 19th, 2009, 05:32 PM

This thread should not be about vB but the integration of vB and PP.
Perhaps people can hold off until PP has a chance to work on the beta.

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