View Full Version : Quickreply (VB3) in Internet Explorer problem
March 7th, 2008, 09:23 AM
I've just upgraded to the latest PhotoPost (6.02) and I'm using the vb3 integration (all "On")
I did not run the upgrade script, because in the announcement it says there is no need to run it for this upgrade.
The bug (i think it is) is in internet explorer: the quick reply has no width:
March 7th, 2008, 09:46 AM
When did you download 6.02 and did you upload all files?
Also do you have any vb hacks installed?
Usually we see issues like this because of hacks etc. Here is a default 6.02 you can view and see the box full width so we need to track down what your issue might be. You can place a site link and login here as well
March 7th, 2008, 10:20 AM
Downloaded it yesterday 12:00 gmt+1, I only uploaded the files that where changed since last version.
Yeah I've got quiet a few hacks installed for vb.
Link to example: http://www.dutchbodybuilding.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/4934
Probably you're right about soem conflict , I'm trying to figure out what though.
March 7th, 2008, 10:28 AM
My suggestion is to upload all files except the photopost config files. disable all vb hacks and verify the box works fine. Then turn on your vb hacks on by one til you get the error and you have your culprit, Things to look for any hack that might be installed for the posting interface.
March 7th, 2008, 11:56 AM
Re-uploaded all files, disabled all plugins, used a fresh vb style to view gallery, all without success. I'll try to look further, any suggestion are welcome.
March 7th, 2008, 01:05 PM
Well I found something, the URL to the editor buttons is wrong, for instance this is the location of the collapse_tcat button:
while it should be:
I'm pretty sure this has to do with the whole issue? What could be causing this?
March 7th, 2008, 02:02 PM
You can in your gallery forum settings make sure your forum url is correct and also in your vbulletin settings double check this as this is where we get th url depending on where in the code we are at. You can also sign into your vbulletin admin and go to styles management and under the global style options for your particular style change the relative paths to redirectories like so
to say this
although I doubt a missing image is going to keep your box from appearing.
March 8th, 2008, 04:04 AM
Chuck it's exactly the same bug as others here: http://www.photopost.com/forum/showthread.php?t=135305&highlight=quick+reply
Any news on that?
ps: the image problem is solved with the absolute urls, thank you.
March 8th, 2008, 07:37 AM
Note my reply here. Here is your page source and I see absolutely nothing wrong with that html or why IE would flip out it views fine in Mozilla Opera and Safari.
<div class="controlbar" style="padding-right:8px">
<fieldset style="border:0px; padding:0px; margin:0px">
<textarea name="message" id="vB_Editor_QR_textarea" rows="10" cols="60" style="width:100%; height:100px" tabindex="1" dir="ltr"></textarea>
Please make sure you download the code from our site to ensure your running all the proper files upload the templates folder and the main php files and lets revisit this
March 8th, 2008, 08:08 AM
I've read the thread but couldn't find a solution. I re-uploaded all default files, disabled plugins and vbulletin templates are default. Also this was never a problem in 6.01 so it is obviously some conflict with IE and the 6.02 code.
March 8th, 2008, 08:23 AM
Dutch this is a default 6.02 install files with all the new files etc.
testing and testing
I do not see any issues with the quick reply with the current files infact 6.02 added the vb quick reply back in 6.01 did not have a vb quick reply. You must ensure you have uploaded all the templates from the current downloaded code from our members area and at least the header-inc.php and showphoto.php files.
March 8th, 2008, 08:55 AM
Yeah no problems on Reeftalk but I've still seen others sites here having the same issue in IE and they also still haven't solved it. I'm 100% sure I uploaded everything atleast 5times (downloaded a fresh install today from members area). I'm going to try a fresh vb install next if that doesn't work I hope someone from photopost can have a look because I don't know what else to do then.
March 8th, 2008, 09:09 AM
Well, I found the problem! And it's a bug.
In vBulletin, disable the WYSIWYG for Quick Reply. Then view the gallery quick reply in IE again. You'll notice the exact same problem on any other site.
March 8th, 2008, 09:12 AM
Now thats good that is why no one has been able to get the same error.
I will pass it along to Michael although I am unsure why it would only be an issue with IE 7.
March 8th, 2008, 09:17 AM
Box still shows for me with WYSIWYG off in photopost edit integration options so I doubt we have tracked down the true cause yet.
March 8th, 2008, 09:20 AM
Since I am unable to reproduct what you see I can only suggest some things for you to try. You can edit the quickreply_367 template and add this in bold to this line and see if that helps
<td id="vB_Editor_QR" width="100%" class="vBulletin_editor" align="left">
March 8th, 2008, 09:24 AM
I tracked it down to if you just use the basic text box in IE 7
Using the standard or WYSIWYG box it works fine
May 11th, 2008, 12:41 PM
Nice tracking, but incorrect from what I can tell. And the link you provided to your own site shows an incorrectly sized reply box. I'm not about to register to test it out to see what the full reply window looks like, nor can I test here on the official pp forums gallery as its out of date by several versions.
My guess is, this latest release of pp is as all the rest have been for years now, not quite ready for prime time. Testing this gallery on the latest vb for integration in all areas before release of a major release of VB would have sure been nice.
I'm going to leave this run on my test site and see if I can fix the code myself in these files to work better. As for my live site, I'll be going back to my earlier gallery version that I made work as it should, this new one has some new features (as always) and some same old problems (as always). Again, as every upgrade to this gallery has ever had.
You mentioned you've been "breathing and eating this code for 5 years now" or something to that effect in one of these threads, that may well be, but 5 pages of bug reports on these forums in 7 days of the latest release sounds like not enough was done here on this release.
BTW, the latest pp has no template named quickreply_367 it does however have a quickcom367.tmpl though, and that one mentions v=367 in it not v=370.
Any idea when we can expect an updated version to better work with 370 (and tested in IE7)?
Also, the first post mentions 6.02, I'm assuming thats a typo as the members area only has 6.01 available?
Same gallery, different year. Astonishing to me.
May 11th, 2008, 01:25 PM
The photopost 6.0 series was released last year. 6.01 earlier this year and our current code is 6.1 which was released last week.
May 11th, 2008, 01:35 PM
Which is not fully compatable/working with vbulletin 3.7 that was released previous to pp 6.1, on April 29 2008. And also is not much of a "rollup of minor fixes" as stated if its introducing new bugs along with those "new features" mentioned in the pp release announcement.
One Example; http://www.photopost.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1223972
Another is this very thread and the editor issues, to name only two.
May 11th, 2008, 07:54 PM
We make every effort to test reasonably, we're a small company and as you know every new release sometimes takes a few days to hammer out some minor issues.
We support vB going back into the 2 series; this mean making it work with v2, v3.0, v3.5/3.6 and 3.7. Each iteration requires its own set of code given the changes and that we can't count on all our customers running the latest.
If we were to take the policy that we only supported the current release of vB, we might have a much easier go of it; but we try to avoid having to force people to update their forums to have a current gallery.
May 13th, 2008, 10:18 AM
Yes of course. But as you know you released an update after VB 3.7 came out, and from what I can tell, it wasn't tested very much with that release. This issue of the textbox is not new to VB 3.7 either. This has been a problem for sometime. Not here though, you've got the most basic editor turned on and an out of date forum yourself.
You may not be forcing users to update their forums to work with your gallery, but it has been suggested to switch to the most basic editor for the result a customer seeks in this very thread. Not exactly a perfect solution by anyones terms.
In the last month, (and lets keep in mind VB 3.7 went thru many betas and several RCs) I have received 2 emails from you (on 5/5 and 5/7) about discounts to renew. Both of these emails sent out after the release of VB 3.7 final.
A user might think (as I did) great! the gallery has been updated to work with the latest release of VB. Only to find that:
Quoting Chuck from the thread I linked to above:
"It seems there is some erroneous data saved in the cat record that should not be there."
"I have seen this pop up here and there before 6.1"
To point out only two problems here.
Neither of which are about the textarea box not working correctly.
In my mind, and I'm sure the minds of others, I have to wonder if this was indeed tested to any extent to work with VB at all this release. It's not like there wasn't time to get it tested.
And then we have this comment from Chuck:
"Dutch this is a default 6.02 install files with all the new files etc.
testing and testing
I do not see any issues with the quick reply with the current files"
He may not see the problem there with that textbox, but the rest of us do.
He may not be having emails sent to him on every page load after upgrading to 6.1 but others including myself are. Disabling the error email from being sent as he suggested on this forum somewhere is not an option. I think most would like to know when there is an error so it can be fixed, not ignored.
I don't know Michael, I understand you're a small company, but the types of answers posted here by you and Chuck are not new either. It's always seemingly someone else's fault, or hack, or whatever thats the problem. Never seems to be gallery, that is, right up till the next pp release that fixes some of the bugs your customers have found for you.
"We support vB going back into the 2 series; this mean making it work with v2, v3.0, v3.5....."
One has to ask then, why? I'm pretty sure VBulletin doesn't even support them any longer.
You may have some customers using old out of date forums but I am quite sure the bulk of VBulletin users are onto most every new gold release VB puts out as those guys make a very tight, very slick piece of software that continues to grow and impress the masses.
You advertise this works with VB, it should work as expected without having to disable features as you have done here on your very own forums, instead of fixing the problems which, in my opinion? Could have been fixed several releases ago.
All that said, I've been using your gallery for many years now, sans the problems it has had on each release. I think its a piece of coal that could be a real diamond if some real effort was put into making it work well.
68 errors on your very own gallery here, at http://validator.w3.org/
Take a look at those errors. They can/could all be fixed.
In the release I was running prior to this latest, 6.1, I had fixed every single issue your gallery had to work with my forums. Should I be fixing this or should you?
Look at the antiquated layout you continue to use, not much of an update if its all behind the scenes bug fixes. The new and existing features don't all work correctly either. How does that happen that something can be added and not tested at least one time to see if it works or not with the most popular browser, the most popular forum software in the world?
It just defies logic.
So, to repeat my question from earlier in this thread:
Any idea when we can expect an updated version to better work with 370 (and tested in IE7)?
You and I both have been at it a long time Michael. Your gallery, out of all the software on all my sites, my servers and customers sites that I maintain is the one I hate to upgrade the most. Why? Because it takes too much time to upgrade, find problems, read countless replies to threads on this forum tap dancing around issues instead of heading them off by testing more completely before releases, and then having in the end to dig thru your code to fix the gallery to work as it should have out of the box.
The emails you sent out worked. (on me anyway) I took advantage of your offer and renewed my access for another year. It would be nice if you could take a closer look at the problems related to your gallery and sort a few of the major ones out instead of worrying about adding new features that I bet, most users don't even use.
Thanks in advance.
May 13th, 2008, 10:30 AM
May 13th, 2008, 10:37 AM
I'm sorry Chuck, your lack of words in that post above has no meaning to me. Would you care to expand on why you've linked to that thread?
I can guess, you're suggesting the spider setting is causing issues and I should disable it? If so, I have never enabled it, ever. Doesn't work correctly.
May 13th, 2008, 10:44 AM
I thought I was still on the other thread you commented on which shows a fix to the array data thing on external.php is where i tracked down the error. Try that and it should help you.
This has nothing to do with quickreply. I will let Michael reply about any quickreply issue.
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