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zigx
March 28th, 2005, 05:09 PM
is there any way to make the URLs appear static?

This helps search engine spidering a Lot as it allows for keywords in the URL

ConqSoft
March 28th, 2005, 05:21 PM
All the good search engines will read the URLs fine...

zigx
March 28th, 2005, 05:31 PM
Yes all the major ones maybe able to but there are tons of smaller Niche SEs that may not.

My main concern is having keywords in the URL. IE the gallery title, picture title or some other text in the URL to make the URL have keywords that will make SE searchers find relevant pages.

ConqSoft
March 28th, 2005, 05:38 PM
My main concern is having keywords in the URL. IE the gallery title, picture title or some other text in the URL to make the URL have keywords that will make SE searchers find relevant pages.

Ahh, I see.

That could make for some long/unruly URLs couldn't it?

zigx
March 28th, 2005, 05:42 PM
Ahh, I see.

That could make for some long/unruly URLs couldn't it?
No youre totally right, it could

but how nice would it be if this url:

http://www.vbadvanced.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=470&c=4

Looked like this:

http://www.vbadvanced.com/gallery/470-nubes/

zigx
March 28th, 2005, 05:42 PM
No youre totally right, it could

but how nice would it be if this url:

http://www.vbadvanced.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=470&c=4

Looked like this:

http://www.vbadvanced.com/gallery/470-nubes/

infact, that is what Gallery ( http://gallery.menalto.com ) does with its albums now that i think about it.

zigx
March 28th, 2005, 05:44 PM
the whole reason this concerns me is that Search engine traffic is the best kind...
its free, the people who come to the site are already interested in what you have, and again, its free lol.

in my personal opinion, optimizing for a search engine is one of the most important steps in having a successful site.

ConqSoft
March 28th, 2005, 06:00 PM
But, neither vBulletin itself (nor PhotoPost) use that type of URL...

imported_rrr
March 28th, 2005, 06:09 PM
Yes, photopost does use that type of URL.

It has a "search engine friendly" URL open that will make all the URLs into static looking directory URLs.

See this sample showphoto page from Photopost:
http://gallery.deeperblue.net/showphoto.php/photo/3001

I'm hoping that someone can come up with a mod_rewrite hack for vBa gallery that does this (or something similar).

I do a LOT of search engine marketing, and I can tell you for certain that it does help to have simple URLs like that.

There's a vbulletin hack that does something similar here:
http://www.daniweb.com/tutorials/tutorial12725.html

ConqSoft
March 28th, 2005, 06:11 PM
Yes, photopost does use that type of URL.

It has a "search engine friendly" URL open that will make all the URLs into static looking directory URLs.

See this sample showphoto page from Photopost:
http://gallery.deeperblue.net/showphoto.php/photo/3001


That doesn't make PhotoPost put the Filename/Category Name/Keyword/Description/etc into the URL, like he's wanting. It just keeps the URL from having ? or & in it, since that confused some of the older search engines.

imported_rrr
March 28th, 2005, 06:14 PM
That doesn't make PhotoPost put the Filename/Category Name/Description/etc into the URL, like he's wanting. It just keeps the URL from having ? or & in it, since that confused some of the older search engine.

keeping the URL from having ? or & in it is a big improvement, even for Google. You'll find deeper indexing of your pages that have static URLs.

There's a hack for vbulletin that does what he's asking for:
http://www.daniweb.com/tutorials/tutorial12725.html
(even the daniweb URL uses the forum name as a directory).

zigx
March 28th, 2005, 06:17 PM
keeping the URL from having ? or & in it is a big improvement, even for Google. You'll find deeper indexing of your pages that have static URLs.

There's a hack for vbulletin that does what he's asking for:
http://www.daniweb.com/tutorials/tutorial12725.html
(even the daniweb URL uses the forum name as a directory).

i currently use that daniweb hack on my forum. It takes like 10 min to install/configure and its the greatest thing ive Ever done for myself.

Even w/o keywords static looking URLs are the best way to go (imo).

So to answer my question, i take it that vba gallery does not support this. Is there a hack that does it? Or is there anyway that you guys can add this essential feature?

Thank you very much to all who have responded btw.

ConqSoft
March 28th, 2005, 06:18 PM
I have search engine results that are 20-30 pages deep into some of the threads on my site. I don't see the problem with ? and & anymore. In the past, sure it may have been an issue.

If it was that big of an issue, you'd think Jelsoft would have that as a built-in option?

zigx
March 28th, 2005, 06:20 PM
I have search engine results that are 20-30 pages deep into some of the threads on my site. I don't see the problem with ? and & anymore. In the past, sure it may have been an issue.

If it was that big of an issue, you'd think Jelsoft would have that as a built-in option?
Well they do have the 'archive' and its very obvious that the archive gets spidered WAY more than the regular forum does. try searching some stuff on google and when you get forums in the SERPs, its normally archive pages.

ConqSoft
March 28th, 2005, 06:22 PM
True, forgot about the archive, since I've never used it. :) Mainly because my site is always flooding by the big three search engines' spiders anyway, and I don't want people to be linked to the "ugly" archive page if they get my site in their search results. I'd much rather them get the real thread, where the ads, graphics, etc are.

ConqSoft
March 28th, 2005, 06:26 PM
(And I just watched about 150 spiders work their way through my Gallery yesterday.)

zigx
March 28th, 2005, 06:31 PM
True, forgot about the archive, since I've never used it. :) Mainly because my site is always flooding by the big three search engines' spiders anyway, and I don't want people to be linked to the "ugly" archive page if they get my site in their search results. I'd much rather them get the real thread, where the ads, graphics, etc are.

yeah same here... thats why i mod_rewrote my entire forum with the hack above. My site is not linked around the net very much and its not "well known" yet. So i try my best to make the forum EAAAASy for them to get around.

zigx
March 28th, 2005, 06:34 PM
(And I just watched about 150 spiders work their way through my Gallery yesterday.)
i have a hunch that bigger sites get more effort from spiders... as i stated before, my site is not that big yet and i want to give the spiders something easy...
Plus there are other reasons... i mean when you are looking @ some search engine results and u see a URL thats like site.com/subject/ and another that looks like its generated which do u pick? I personally go for a url that doesnt look shadey and i would guess that others do the same.

The url rewriting is really important to me so as i stated before:

So to answer my question, i take it that vba gallery does not support this. Is there a hack that does it? Or is there anyway that you guys can add this essential feature?

ConqSoft
March 28th, 2005, 06:34 PM
I haven't seen a hack to convert it, but it shouldn't be very difficult to do.

zigx
March 28th, 2005, 06:36 PM
I haven't seen a hack to convert it, but it shouldn't be very difficult to do.
ah i see. Would you guys be willing to offer support for this?

imported_rrr
March 28th, 2005, 06:47 PM
i currently use that daniweb hack on my forum. It takes like 10 min to install/configure and its the greatest thing ive Ever done for myself.

I want to install the daniweb hack on my forums, but it looks like there were errors in the first post (from other reports in that thread).

Did you find it easy to install and fix any errors?

zigx
March 28th, 2005, 07:01 PM
I want to install the daniweb hack on my forums, but it looks like there were errors in the first post (from other reports in that thread).

Did you find it easy to install and fix any errors?
man, its very easy. I will PM you the URL that i used because dani has a tutorial AND a thread about it. I used the thread.

zigx
March 29th, 2005, 03:37 PM
I haven't seen a hack to convert it, but it shouldn't be very difficult to do.
Would vba offer support on this?

Brian
March 29th, 2005, 03:53 PM
We can't support 3rd party hacks. We should have something similar to vB's archive in a future version though.

zigx
March 29th, 2005, 04:21 PM
We can't support 3rd party hacks. We should have something similar to vB's archive in a future version though.
i see.

What about payment to add this feature? Is something liekt hat possible?

imported_rrr
March 29th, 2005, 04:25 PM
I'd be willing to pay for this feature as well.

mywebsite.com/gallery/browseimages.php?c=2

and:

mywebsite.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2

and:

mywebsite.com/gallery/search.php?do=searchresults&string=SEARCHTERM&catid=0&quicksearch=1


I'd like to have the category urls turn into either a static directory looking structure (/gallery/cat/2) or a page looking structure (/gallery/category2.html). Even better would be the category name (/gallery/catname-category.html)

/gallery/showimage/2 or /gallery/showimage2.html for the second URL and

/gallery/searchresults/SEARCHTERM/category/0/quicksearch/1

for the search terms URL.

ConqSoft
March 29th, 2005, 04:28 PM
i see.

What about payment to add this feature? Is something liekt hat possible?

Probably not. Check out the last reply here: http://www.vbadvanced.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6764

zigx
March 30th, 2005, 08:33 PM
well thats depressing lol.