I am back again lol Chuck I spent the morning restoring the files on the old site, I hadn't deleted the database yet, to check if the issue existed before the move and I hadn't noticed it, and it did indeed exist....I have no idea where to go from here having already disabled every other hack and restoring the original templates in a new style....except to actually try uninstalling the hacks one by one which will take me a while LOL I will get back to you if I find the issue