ok ok, i am getting there.. i have the skins/integration to vb3 back. Everything seems ok except no images and I know why. before the upgrade I had renamed data to dataold and when that part of the script ran to transfer the images it didn't happen so now I am stuck with 2 data folders. All I need to do is re-rerun the script to migrate the images but I do not want to make things worse. Can you advise on how I can do this. Since there are over 8,000 images I cannot do it manually. I thought maybe I rerun the 2.42 to 2.5 script to do the migration step again but it could make things worse. thanks for any help! maybe i can just run a query to do this?